From pycyn@aol.com Sun Aug 26 12:15:07 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2); 26 Aug 2001 19:15:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 65437 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2001 19:14:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 26 Aug 2001 19:14:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d09.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.41) by mta2 with SMTP; 26 Aug 2001 19:14:24 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.4.) id r.a2.18ec7c8f (4405) for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 15:14:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 15:14:18 EDT Subject: Re: [lojban] RE: mine, etc. To: lojban@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_a2.18ec7c8f.28baa48a_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10531 From: pycyn@aol.com --part1_a2.18ec7c8f.28baa48a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/26/2001 8:20:43 AM Central Daylight Time, jjllambias@hotmail.com writes: > la pycyn cusku di'e > > >To be sure, every set can be well-ordered (given Choice) but finding the > >rule -- as {moi} requests -- is not always easy or even feasible. > > Is finding the epistemology of knowledge -- as {djuno} requests -- > always feasible, let alone easy? > Not describing it, but we can usually fall back on "the usual." There isn't a usual ordering for most sets and picking different one obviously gives different places to each. Of course, if you use the names as pointers to ordinals, which ordering it is may not make a difference. But then, why not use the names directly as pointers to the arms? --part1_a2.18ec7c8f.28baa48a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/26/2001 8:20:43 AM Central Daylight Time,
jjllambias@hotmail.com writes:


la pycyn cusku di'e

>To be sure, every set can be well-ordered (given Choice) but  finding the
>rule -- as {moi} requests -- is not always easy or even feasible.

Is finding the epistemology of knowledge -- as {djuno} requests --
always feasible, let alone easy?


Not describing it, but we can usually fall back on "the usual."  There isn't
a usual ordering for most sets and picking different one obviously gives
different places to each.  Of course, if you use the names as pointers to
ordinals, which ordering it is may not make a difference.  But then, why not
use the names directly as pointers to the arms? --part1_a2.18ec7c8f.28baa48a_boundary--