From jjllambias@hotmail.com Tue Aug 28 17:59:21 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2); 29 Aug 2001 00:59:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 25004 invoked from network); 29 Aug 2001 00:58:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 29 Aug 2001 00:58:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.240.143) by mta3 with SMTP; 29 Aug 2001 00:58:04 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 17:58:04 -0700 Received: from 200.69.11.177 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 00:58:04 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.69.11.177] To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] The Knights who forgot to say "ni!" Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 00:58:04 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Aug 2001 00:58:04.0483 (UTC) FILETIME=[A8ABA930:01C13025] From: "Jorge Llambias" la pycyn cusku di'e > > Yes, {ni} is a short form of {ka sela'u makau} just like > > {jei} is a short form of {du'u xukau}. At least that's the meaning > > they have from usage, if not from their definition. > >Well, not really, since {ka} is going to be a property (etc.) not a >quantity, so the first doesn't work. The second equation has been >consistently rejected since forever, for pretty much the same reason" a >truth >value is not a proposition. You didn't read what I wrote. I know that they are _defined_ as quantity and truth value, but they are _used_ only as property and proposition. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp