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Subject: properties vs. relationships
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From: "Adam Raizen" <araizen@newmail.net>

Why is it that there is a property in the x3 of

do cnino mi le ka ce'u xunre

Couldn't it just as easily be

do cnino mi le ka le nu ce'u xunre cu se sanji ce'u

Likewise with "ko'a pamoi lei nanmu le ka ce'u clani". Shouldn't it be

ko'a pamoi lei nanmu le ka ce'u clamau ce'u

Otherwise, how would you get ascending order vs. descending order?
Maybe the short forms should be considered abbreviations of the ones
with an explicit relationship.

mu'o mi'e .adam.


