From lojbab@lojban.org Sat Sep 01 23:20:54 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2); 2 Sep 2001 06:20:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 79199 invoked from network); 2 Sep 2001 06:20:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 Sep 2001 06:20:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stmpy-3.cais.net) (205.252.14.73) by mta2 with SMTP; 2 Sep 2001 06:20:53 -0000 Received: from user.lojban.org (224.dynamic.cais.com [207.226.56.224]) by stmpy-3.cais.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f826Kp860342 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2001 02:20:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010902021004.00d5c700@pop.cais.com> X-Sender: vir1036@pop.cais.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 02:18:57 -0400 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Women in Lojban In-Reply-To: <9mpb4l+p6n0@eGroups.com> References: <15d.3dbb06.28c15852@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" At 12:46 AM 9/1/01 +0000, thinkit8@lycos.com wrote: >i would ask, then, if you had any sons that were interested in >lojban? or if anyone here has? i think richard curnow and lojbab >have sons and daughters. My kids have never shown particular interest in Lojban, and neither seems especially adept at learning languages (my daughter eked out a D- in first year Spanish last year) despite having acquired English from their native Russian (they both lost the Russian relatively quickly after learning enough English to get by). >would be interesting if perhaps the female >in the same environment might take to lojban. as it is now, i >unfortunately have a dim view of the weaker, stupider gender. I don't know if I've read all messages in this thread, so in case no one has mentioned it, both JCB's first wife and daughter were quite instrumental in the formation of Loglan. His first wife did a lot of the original efforts at teaching the language before they got divorced (pc may have more details, but I think he once offered the speculation that a lot more of Loglan's design came from JCB's first wife than was ever publically acknowledged), and his daughter Jenny showed some signs at one point of starting to get native speaker instincts according to JCB (she apparently spoke the language better than he did for a while), though as she grew older she almost completely lost interest though she made a couple of later design contributions in the 80s, including IIRC the case tags that serve TLI Loglan as a cross between FA and BAI. Jenny is, as far as I know, still on the Board of Trustees of TLI. lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org