From a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com Thu Sep 06 17:56:27 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_1); 7 Sep 2001 00:56:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 2158 invoked from network); 7 Sep 2001 00:49:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 7 Sep 2001 00:49:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta07-svc.ntlworld.com) (62.253.162.47) by mta3 with SMTP; 7 Sep 2001 00:49:56 -0000 Received: from andrew ([62.253.88.88]) by mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20010907004954.NZCK710.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@andrew>; Fri, 7 Sep 2001 01:49:54 +0100 Reply-To: To: "Robert McIvor" Cc: Subject: Loglan history (was: RE: [lojban] LALR1 question Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 01:49:11 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20010904220252.HMGD29250.tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net@localhost> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "And Rosta" > From: Robert McIvor [mailto:rmcivor@macsrule.com] > I believe JCB learned his lesson from the split, and afterwards accepted > open discussion and criticism and never again attempted to impose his will > in the fashion described by Lojbab. Loglan has remained an open language, > although changes now are rare and mainly extensions, rather than changes > to preexisting structures. If JCB softened, how come the split could not be patched up? I had been given to understand that it was JCB's adamant intransigence that prevented the reunion and thus led to such deeply unfortunate outcomes as competition for new recruits, the division of the community (e.g. with Alex Leith and Nick Nicholas waxing prolix in not the same language), the largely noisome innovations that occurred in Lojban post-split, the exile of Jim Carter, and so on and so forth. --And.