From araizen@newmail.net Thu Sep 06 18:45:45 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: araizen@newmail.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_1); 7 Sep 2001 01:45:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 67526 invoked from network); 7 Sep 2001 01:45:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Sep 2001 01:45:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n31.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.2.220) by mta1 with SMTP; 7 Sep 2001 01:45:44 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: araizen@newmail.net Received: from [10.1.10.100] by hp.egroups.com with NNFMP; 07 Sep 2001 01:45:42 -0000 Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 01:45:40 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: ce'u Message-ID: <9n98s4+iglj@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 875 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 62.0.182.50 From: "Adam Raizen" la .and. cusku di'e > A fatci is something that is true of the local universe. A ka'e fatci > then is something that could be true of the local universe and a ca'a > fatci is something that actually is true of the local universe. > "X dies before X is born" is not a ka'e fatci. "I live in Paris" is > a ka'e but not a ca'a fatci. "I live in London" is a ka'e and a ca'a > fatci. So 'nu' is to 'fasnu' as 'du'u' is to what? > This is indeed a matter on the philosophical end of semantics rather than > the grammatical end. However, if the semantics of "nu" has even the > most microscopic resemblance to what "event" means, then a nu is something > that consists of a portion of spacetime. "2+2=4" does not consist of a > portion of spacetime. .i mi na tugni fi le du'u le du'u li re su'i re du li vo cu canlu najenai se ditcu -- .i mu'o mi'e .adam. ko sarji zo gumri