From pycyn@aol.com Fri Sep 07 01:32:54 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_1); 7 Sep 2001 08:32:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 17513 invoked from network); 7 Sep 2001 08:32:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Sep 2001 08:32:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r07.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.103) by mta2 with SMTP; 7 Sep 2001 08:32:53 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.4.) id r.59.f95d3d8 (4012) for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2001 04:32:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <59.f95d3d8.28c9e030@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 04:32:48 EDT Subject: Re: [lojban] li'i (was: Another stab at a Record on ce'u To: lojban@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_59.f95d3d8.28c9e030_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10535 From: pycyn@aol.com --part1_59.f95d3d8.28c9e030_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/6/2001 7:58:34 PM Central Daylight Time, a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com writes: > No, not at all. I don't deny that there must be an experiencer. I just > strongly question whether the experiencer must be involved in the > experience bridi. > Can someone experience something in which he is NOT involved? Ah, yes, in thesense that the experiential bridi does not have to mention him as experience: my experience of the sun setting over the lake, say. --part1_59.f95d3d8.28c9e030_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/6/2001 7:58:34 PM Central Daylight Time,
a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com writes:


No, not at all. I don't deny that there must be an experiencer. I just
strongly question whether the experiencer must be involved in the
experience bridi.


Can someone experience something in which he is NOT involved?  Ah, yes, in
thesense that the experiential bridi does not have to mention him as
experience: my experience of the sun setting over the lake, say.
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