From rob@twcny.rr.com Fri Sep 07 15:04:05 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: rob@twcny.rr.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_1); 7 Sep 2001 22:04:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 11735 invoked from network); 7 Sep 2001 22:03:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Sep 2001 22:03:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailout6.nyroc.rr.com) (24.92.226.125) by mta1 with SMTP; 7 Sep 2001 22:03:17 -0000 Received: from mail1.twcny.rr.com (mail1-0 [24.92.226.74]) by mailout6.nyroc.rr.com (8.11.6/Road Runner 1.12) with ESMTP id f87M0Cu07577 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2001 18:00:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from riff ([24.92.246.4]) by mail1.twcny.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2001 18:00:11 -0400 Received: from rob by riff with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15fTg9-0000Od-00 for ; Fri, 07 Sep 2001 18:00:49 -0400 Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 18:00:48 -0400 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Mark on wiki on lerfu Message-ID: <20010907180048.A1107@twcny.rr.com> Reply-To: rob@twcny.rr.com References: <9najkv+v61k@eGroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9najkv+v61k@eGroups.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i X-Is-It-Not-Nifty: www.sluggy.com From: Rob Speer This is cool stuff. I'd always wondered why the Book makes such a big deal out of acronyms and yet nobody really uses them. This is rather similar to something I was thinking recently. I believe names are assignable (I remember someone naming variables with {goi la .ab.} and {goi la .ac.}) and I came up with an idea to take advantage of the rule about "la" in names. Since no pause is required before a consonant which begins a name, and a name can be a single consonant, {la d.} can legitimately be pronounced {lad.} (which is good, because it's rather tough to pronounce if you _do_ put a pause before the d). So now you've got 17 assignable, single-syllable words which you can use like {goi lab.} Considering lerfu are also assignable, this doesn't have that much of a benefit, except that they might be clearer because they have no default referents. However, I now see the ko'a series (but not fo'a, which is underappreciated) as thoroughly useless except in situations where you want absolute clarity. -- Rob Speer