From jjllambias@hotmail.com Fri Sep 07 19:34:53 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_1); 8 Sep 2001 02:34:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 98772 invoked from network); 8 Sep 2001 02:34:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Sep 2001 02:34:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.96) by mta1 with SMTP; 8 Sep 2001 02:34:52 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 7 Sep 2001 19:34:49 -0700 Received: from 200.41.247.42 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 08 Sep 2001 02:34:49 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.41.247.42] To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] ko'a klama .isecaubo mi djuno Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2001 02:34:49 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Sep 2001 02:34:49.0363 (UTC) FILETIME=[D4C78E30:01C1380E] From: "Jorge Llambias" la pier cusku di'e >I think I've figured it out. {mi claxu lo fipybirka} says that there is a >pectoral fin, but I don't have one (which is true; I'm not a fish). It doesn't really say that you don't have any. It says that there is at least one that you lack, but it says nothing about the rest of them. {claxu} is a tricky predicate. You could say {mi claxu ro fipybirka}, "every fin is such that I lack it", but it sounds awful. I would say {mi claxu lo'e fipybirka}... mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp