From xod@sixgirls.org Sat Sep 08 10:04:40 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: xod@reva.sixgirls.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_1); 8 Sep 2001 17:04:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 32971 invoked from network); 8 Sep 2001 17:04:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Sep 2001 17:04:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO reva.sixgirls.org) (64.152.7.13) by mta1 with SMTP; 8 Sep 2001 17:04:39 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by reva.sixgirls.org (8.11.6/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f88H4bS02358 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2001 13:04:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 13:04:36 -0400 (EDT) To: Subject: Re: [lojban] ko'a klama .isecaubo mi djuno In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Invent Yourself On Sat, 8 Sep 2001, Jorge Llambias wrote: > > la pier cusku di'e > > >I think I've figured it out. {mi claxu lo fipybirka} says that there is a > >pectoral fin, but I don't have one (which is true; I'm not a fish). > > It doesn't really say that you don't have any. It says that there > is at least one that you lack, but it says nothing about the rest > of them. {claxu} is a tricky predicate. You could say {mi claxu > ro fipybirka}, "every fin is such that I lack it", but it sounds > awful. I would say {mi claxu lo'e fipybirka}... What about {mi claxu le fipybirka} I lack all of the subset of actual fish fins I have in mind (where I happen to have all of them in mind) ----- "We should destroy the Muslims' homes while leaving the Christians' homes alone." -- Rehavam Zeevi, Israeli Tourism Minister