From lojbab@lojban.org Mon Sep 10 16:24:21 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_1); 10 Sep 2001 23:24:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 33371 invoked from network); 10 Sep 2001 23:17:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 10 Sep 2001 23:17:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stmpy-5.cais.net) (205.252.14.75) by mta2 with SMTP; 10 Sep 2001 23:17:15 -0000 Received: from user.lojban.org (dynamic231.cl8.cais.net [205.177.20.231]) by stmpy-5.cais.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f8ANHB145283; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 19:17:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010910004337.00b0f460@pop.cais.com> X-Sender: vir1036@pop.cais.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 00:47:00 -0400 To: John Cowan Subject: Re: [lojban] ko'a klama .isecaubo mi djuno Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: References: <000201c12f49$2a71be60$8ab5003e@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" At 09:40 PM 8/27/01 -0400, John Cowan wrote: >Adam Raizen scripsit: > > > I've come to the conclusion that "broda .i+stag+bo brode" doesn't > > necessarily imply both broda and brode (depending of the meaning of > > the tag). It's certainly not the case in "broda .inajenai brode". ".i" > > is supposed to be the unspecified logical connection between > > sentences, not a short version of ".ije". > >Actually, .i is a long scope version of .ije, not unspecified >connection. And i+stag+bo does assert both sentences unless >there is a negation involved. I have interpreted .i as defaulting to .ijoi. There is a connection between the two sentences, because they are being expressed either by the same person or sequentially in time, but there need not be a logical connection. I agree that the scope is indefinitely long, though I am not sure what scope means when applied to nonlogical connection. lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org