From xod@sixgirls.org Thu Sep 13 17:03:13 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: xod@reva.sixgirls.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_1); 14 Sep 2001 00:03:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 35619 invoked from network); 13 Sep 2001 22:16:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 13 Sep 2001 22:16:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO reva.sixgirls.org) (64.152.7.13) by mta3 with SMTP; 13 Sep 2001 22:16:03 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by reva.sixgirls.org (8.11.6/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f8DMG2x04213 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 18:16:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 18:16:02 -0400 (EDT) To: Subject: Sane and Rational date format (was: (from lojban-beginners) pi'e In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Invent Yourself On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, James F. Carter wrote: > > I think that when dates and times are combined, and they are all numeric, the > > order should be year, month, day, hour, minute, second. > > I agree. ISO 8601 specifies dates in the following variant formats: > > ccyymmdd 19991231 > ccyymmddhhmmss 19991231235959 > ccyy-mm-dd hh:mm:ss 1999-12-31 23:59:59 > And trimming any of the time parts from either end, if unambiguous. > > And an upper case T may replace the blank if absolutely necessary. There > are also specifications for day-of-week and day-of-year. > > As international relations (of the positive kind) grow and strengthen it is > important that partners be able to interchange data, specifically digital > records containing ISO-8859-x encoded dates. All cultures are going to > have to give up their idiosyncratic date formats and adopt a common > standard, of which ISO-8601 is the presently obvious one, besides being > totally serviceable in my opinion. > > Lojban ought to include itself in the world cultural community, and adopt > the ISO-8601 date order, ignoring baseline issues on the grounds that the > original decision was a mistake brought about because nobody at that time > had thought about the subsequently resolved functional issues. It is a compatible standard, and it is simple to understand without weird internal reversals of endianism, following a single rule. These arguments seem to override invocations of tradition. detri4 can be filled to clue in the readers that cuvjdikapoi is being used. ----- A Nationalist is a Globalist who's city has been bombed.