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Subject: RE: [lojban] li'i (was: Another stab at a Record on ce'u
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From: "And Rosta" <a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com>

lojbab:
> At 06:04 PM 8/31/01 +0100, And Rosta wrote:
> >{le si'o ce'u broda kei be mi} = my notion of Broda
> 
> That might be your notion of "le broda", just as
> 
> {le si'o broda ce'u kei be mi}
> 
> might be your notion of "le se broda"
> 
> But let us turn to some abstractions that people often label as Ideas, like 
> "Freedom" and "Peace". I can't figure out whether the ce'u goes in those 
> or why you would want to use one. 

Every place is filled by ce'u. It remains undecided whether any of
those ce'u can be unambiguously covert/elided.

--And.