From lojbab@lojban.org Fri Sep 14 18:15:41 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 15 Sep 2001 01:15:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 80638 invoked from network); 15 Sep 2001 00:42:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 15 Sep 2001 00:42:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stmpy-4.cais.net) (205.252.14.74) by mta3 with SMTP; 15 Sep 2001 00:42:13 -0000 Received: from bob.lojban.org (ppp17.net-A.cais.net [205.252.61.17]) by stmpy-4.cais.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f8F0fst34934; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 20:42:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010914203342.00bf6100@pop.cais.com> X-Sender: vir1036@pop.cais.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 20:38:51 -0400 To: Invent Yourself Subject: Re: 24hr GMT (was: (from lojban-beginners) pi'e Cc: In-Reply-To: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010914171357.00bf2600@pop.cais.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" At 07:00 PM 9/14/01 -0400, Invent Yourself wrote: >On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Bob LeChevalier (lojbab) wrote: > > BTW. No one has mentioned one bit of the nitty gritty of this particular > > world standard, but don't most standards insist on 24 hour clock time? Do > > the world standard organizations believe that they will get the world to > > use a 24 hour clock in everyday life? (Note that at one point I tried to > > get Lojbanists to consider a 24 hour clock as an option, but the community > > outvoted me.) > >Ultimately we must all adopt a 24 hour GMT clock -- a single time zone for >the whole globe. Arbitrary geographical time zones are already obsolete >for internet servers and the military, both of which cannot be bothered >with lists of offsets. As our interactions become more global and less >local (parochial), the wisdom and efficiency of such a system will become >increasingly clear. As for the 24 hour aspect, there are no sane arguments >against it. I argued this at one point and lost (not all that many years ago). The community wanted 12 hour clock using decimal numbers . IIRC, I was roundly ridiculed even to think of teaching alternatives and "letting usage decide". lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org