From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Fri Sep 14 18:45:29 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 15 Sep 2001 01:45:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 98829 invoked from network); 15 Sep 2001 01:27:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 15 Sep 2001 01:27:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.169.75.101) by mta3 with SMTP; 15 Sep 2001 01:27:37 -0000 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15i4F2-0000qS-00 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 18:27:32 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 18:27:32 -0700 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: 24hr GMT (was: (from lojban-beginners) pi'e Message-ID: <20010914182732.W31454@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010914171357.00bf2600@pop.cais.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20010914203342.00bf6100@pop.cais.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010914203342.00bf6100@pop.cais.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i From: Robin Lee Powell On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 08:38:51PM -0400, Bob LeChevalier (lojbab) wrote: > At 07:00 PM 9/14/01 -0400, Invent Yourself wrote: > >On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Bob LeChevalier (lojbab) wrote: > > > BTW. No one has mentioned one bit of the nitty gritty of this > > > particular world standard, but don't most standards insist on 24 > > > hour clock time? Do the world standard organizations believe that > > > they will get the world to use a 24 hour clock in everyday life? > > > (Note that at one point I tried to get Lojbanists to consider a 24 > > > hour clock as an option, but the community outvoted me.) > > > >Ultimately we must all adopt a 24 hour GMT clock -- a single time > >zone for the whole globe. Arbitrary geographical time zones are > >already obsolete for internet servers and the military, both of which > >cannot be bothered with lists of offsets. As our interactions become > >more global and less local (parochial), the wisdom and efficiency of > >such a system will become increasingly clear. As for the 24 hour > >aspect, there are no sane arguments against it. > > I argued this at one point and lost (not all that many years ago). > The community wanted 12 hour clock using decimal numbers . IIRC, I > was roundly ridiculed even to think of teaching alternatives and > "letting usage decide". 1. That's fucking ridiculous. 2. I'll be using 24hr, regardless of what the rest of you say. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ BTW, I'm male, honest. le datni cu djica le nu zifre .iku'i .oi le so'e datni cu to'e te pilno je xlali -- RLP http://www.lojban.org/