From nicholas@uci.edu Fri Sep 14 19:10:18 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: nicholas@uci.edu X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 15 Sep 2001 02:10:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 62426 invoked from network); 15 Sep 2001 02:05:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 15 Sep 2001 02:05:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO e4e.oac.uci.edu) (128.200.222.10) by mta2 with SMTP; 15 Sep 2001 02:05:50 -0000 Received: from localhost (nicholas@localhost) by e4e.oac.uci.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA00030; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 19:05:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: e4e.oac.uci.edu: nicholas owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 19:05:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: To: Cc: Nick NICHOLAS Subject: Re: [lojban] (from lojban-beginners) pi'e Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Nick NICHOLAS cu'u la pc. >And the whole point is that we are much more likely to want to talk about >a day in this month than a year all by itself, ??!! You people really thought that?! I'm speechless. So, I'm unlikely to say I was born in 1971. I am far likelier to say I was born on the 29th. Right. I'm looking forward to the Lojban History of the Crusades, where everything will be dated by default to the day of the month... > Well, {Pavoso Renanc} isn't someone's (or something's) name for > starters. (a) Says who? A name's a name for anything I please. (b) If I wanted Glorking for dates... Whatever. But even glorking is better than a broken standard. > The harder on is to tell that something takes place this October. {li pi'e pano}. Next? And btw, the only sensible thing to say about pi'e, and still keep it with months and days (which we want to), is that it represents "parts". It cannot be just "variable number bases". Variable number bases implies that digit n is number base A, and digit m is number base B; not digit n is number base A, and digit m is number base B for numbers not rhyming with "ember", and C for numbers you can eat lobsters doing. Variable number bases imply arithmetic that makes sense. That's not the case for {pi'e}, so let's just say the definition of {pi'e} shifted the minute it was applied to months, and leave it at that. -- == == == == == == == == == == == == == == == == == == == Nick Nicholas, Breathing I REJECT {gumri} nicholas@uci.edu (Lojban Wiki, Resurrected Gismu)