From a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com Sat Sep 15 11:17:37 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 15 Sep 2001 18:17:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 37947 invoked from network); 15 Sep 2001 15:50:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 15 Sep 2001 15:50:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta02-svc.ntlworld.com) (62.253.162.42) by mta2 with SMTP; 15 Sep 2001 15:50:28 -0000 Received: from andrew ([62.253.84.189]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20010915155026.VANS29790.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@andrew> for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 16:50:26 +0100 Reply-To: To: Subject: RE: [lojban] (from lojban-beginners) pi'e Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 16:49:41 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "And Rosta" Can't we refer to portions of time by means of a selbri that has years, months, and days as different sumti? Then endianicity becomes an irrelevance. x1 is the x2th day of the x3th month of year x4 (OK, that looks littlendian, but only because Lojban forces every selbri to have an unmarked place structure whether you want it or not.) All this faffing around with number conventions doesn't jive with the basic principles of Lojban grammar. A number is a number and its meaning should be independent of the selbri it is a sumti of. The proper mechanism for handling an agglomeration of related parameters, such as are dates, is the predicate. --And.