From arosta@uclan.ac.uk Mon Sep 17 10:42:24 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: arosta@uclan.ac.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 17 Sep 2001 17:42:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 13698 invoked from network); 17 Sep 2001 14:20:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 17 Sep 2001 14:20:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO com1.uclan.ac.uk) (193.61.255.3) by mta1 with SMTP; 17 Sep 2001 14:20:40 -0000 Received: from gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk by com1.uclan.ac.uk with SMTP (Mailer); Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:56:13 +0100 Received: from DI1-Message_Server by gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 15:26:26 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 15:26:06 +0100 To: lojban Subject: RE: [lojban] META : Who is everyone (and what are they saying) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline From: And Rosta kreig: #>> I'm also puzzled by Nick (who, if I've got it right has spent #>> one hell of a lot of time learning lojban) having views such as lojban never #>> succeeding, rafsi not being a good idea and ... what else? #>Perhaps I should look more closely at what Nick says. I don't especially #>remember him saying that, and thought that I agreed with him on most thin= gs #>(but not gumri) :) #>That sounds like the sort of thing And would say, though. # #I think nitcion's done with the learning part - he's writing lessons now! #And, is an avid conlanger who manages to be a hardiner while still #tinkering; that's my sense at least. Is that comma after "And" supposed to be there, or is it a typo? (The punctuation makes it look like you're talking about Nick.) #>>I'm not quite sure where my beliefs fall. Perhaps "reluctant hardliner" would #>>describe it. I don't like to see certain words having unclear meanings, but I #>>also don't like ugliness (it took me a long time to accept {ce'u}, and #>>{no'axiro} still pains me). Additionally, I respect the baseline, but th= at #>>doesn't mean I _like_ the baseline. # #Somewhere on the wiki, someone pointed out that respect for the baseline i= s #like respect for the law - one respects it without necessarily agreeeing #with it. That was me. And it expresses my view too. #I think it's also in his address - xod@sixgirls.com, which makes me wonder #who his six girls are.=20 I originally supposed xod was one of the six girls, until I heard that "Xod has said that *he* will speak only Lojban at Logfest" -- it wasn't so impla= usible, because xod is less geeky and techy and logically analistic than most other bigtime participants on the list; ergo, xod could have been female. #I'm actually wondering if we need a new gismu (WARNING: SARCASM AHEAD): #"besto" - x1 is an asbestos suit (metaphorically) worn by x2 over e-mail x= 3, #disagreed with by x4 for obvious reason x5 LOL -- stick it on wiki with other unofficial gismu! Definitely part of Loj= bo culture. (Mind you, in 10 years of Lojban list the only time I remember anyone losing their rag was Robin CA with pc, because pc was dissing Robin's hard labours, iirc. But that just goes to show that our besto are worn as naturally as a second skin...] --And.