From ragnarok@pobox.com Mon Sep 17 23:05:34 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: raganok@intrex.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 18 Sep 2001 06:05:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 4432 invoked from network); 18 Sep 2001 01:31:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 18 Sep 2001 01:31:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO intrex.net) (209.42.192.250) by mta1 with SMTP; 18 Sep 2001 01:31:15 -0000 Received: from Craig [209.42.200.34] by intrex.net (SMTPD32-5.05) id A3E3725E00AE; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 21:31:15 -0400 Reply-To: To: Subject: RE: [lojban] (from lojban-beginners) pi'e Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 21:29:35 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <01091722511101.03978@linux> Importance: Normal X-eGroups-From: "Craig" From: "Craig" >> Calling me a libertarian is hilarious, I'm as much a standards nut as >> anyone. But I lost this one, and my obligation as leader is to stand up >> for those who won the argument. Linguistically, I'm a pragmatist. Lojb= an >> is not by prescription going to change the way people think (you are the >> anti-Whorfist, though, so you should be making this argument). At best = it >> can make it possible for people to change the way they think. Right now >> they seem to think in 12 hour clocks (and the fact that 12 hour clocks h= ave >> persisted since the Babylonians were the last to use a duodecimal multip= le >> as a base makes it hard to imagine that this will change quickly). >which might have to do with the fact that most analog clocks only have a 1= 2h=20 >scale (or is it the other way around? ;) ).=20=20 Well, they could easily make clocks that moved half as fast, with twice as = many numbers. It would look darned silly, though. --Craig Daniel 'Through all of the islands and all of the highlands, if we couldn't l= augh we would all go insane.' -Jimmy Buffett pgp public key ID: 0x5C3A1E74http://nuzban.wiw.org/wiki/index.php?Experime= ntal%20gismu%20proposal --la kreig.daniyl. 'segu le bavli temci gi mi'o renvi lo purci .i ga le fonxa janbe gi du mi' -la djimis.BYFet xy.sy. gubmau ckiku nacycme: 0x5C3A1E74