From thedward@barsoom.net Tue Sep 18 08:05:59 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: thedward@barsoom.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 18 Sep 2001 15:05:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 62709 invoked from network); 18 Sep 2001 15:05:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by 10.1.1.224 with QMQP; 18 Sep 2001 15:05:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kamkalsa.dyn.cheapnet.net) (66.68.62.112) by mta1 with SMTP; 18 Sep 2001 15:05:58 -0000 Received: by kamkalsa.dyn.cheapnet.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1D0FE1C083; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:05:55 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:05:54 -0500 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] (from lojban-beginners) pi'e Message-ID: <20010918100554.L32270@barsoom.net> References: <01091722511101.03978@linux> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i From: the Edward Blevins On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 09:29:35PM -0400, Craig wrote: > >> Calling me a libertarian is hilarious, I'm as much a standards nut as > >> anyone. But I lost this one, and my obligation as leader is to stand up > >> for those who won the argument. Linguistically, I'm a pragmatist. Lojban > >> is not by prescription going to change the way people think (you are the > >> anti-Whorfist, though, so you should be making this argument). At best it > >> can make it possible for people to change the way they think. Right now > >> they seem to think in 12 hour clocks (and the fact that 12 hour clocks have > >> persisted since the Babylonians were the last to use a duodecimal multiple > >> as a base makes it hard to imagine that this will change quickly). > >which might have to do with the fact that most analog clocks only have a 12h > >scale (or is it the other way around? ;) ). > > Well, they could easily make clocks that moved half as fast, with twice as many numbers. It would look darned silly, though. > And they do make such clocks and watches. If I am wearing an analog watch, it will certainly be one with a 24 hour dial. I am always on the lookout for new ones. Such watches are popular in Russia (as an example: http://www.russiansouvenirs.com/raketa/wr10014a.jpg). -- the Edward Blevins (512) 436-9576 /(0\ mi tavla fo la lojban .i xu do go'i? \1)/ .i.e'u ko vitke fi zoi .url. http://www.lojban.org .url. Today is Sweetmorn, the 42nd day of Bureaucracy, 3167.