From xod@sixgirls.org Tue Sep 18 19:09:07 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: xod@reva.sixgirls.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 19 Sep 2001 02:09:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 63794 invoked from network); 19 Sep 2001 02:09:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 19 Sep 2001 02:09:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO reva.sixgirls.org) (64.152.7.13) by mta2 with SMTP; 19 Sep 2001 02:09:05 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by reva.sixgirls.org (8.11.6+3.4W/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f8J294v27688 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:09:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:09:03 -0400 (EDT) To: Subject: Re: [lojban] META : Who is everyone (and what are they saying) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Invent Yourself On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Jorge Llambias wrote: > As for {ckaji le ka daplu}, can something that is not daplu > have the property of being daplu? I can't see any difference > between {ko'a daplu} and {ko'a ckaji le ka ce'u daplu}. > > As for {simsa lo daplu}, I don't see anything wrong with it, > except that it is no longer a metaphor, it is a simile, as > would be "no man is like an island" in English. A somewhat > different (and usually weaker) figure of speech. > > Probably pe'a-ists will want to say {no prenu cu danlu pe'a}, > but that sort of kills the effect that a good metaphor has. But there is no pe'a needed. Since daplu2 and 3 are unspecified, virtually everything is a daplu in one sense or another. daplu is much broader than "island", which means by default le daplu be lo'e tumla bei lo'e djacu ----- Sami ul-Haq, Osama bin Laden's closest friend in Pakistan, runs the "University for the Education of Truth," a fundamentalist institution that educated and trained nine out of the Taliban's top 10 leaders.