From xod@sixgirls.org Tue Sep 18 20:08:58 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: xod@reva.sixgirls.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 19 Sep 2001 03:08:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 37321 invoked from network); 19 Sep 2001 03:08:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by 10.1.1.220 with QMQP; 19 Sep 2001 03:08:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO reva.sixgirls.org) (64.152.7.13) by mta2 with SMTP; 19 Sep 2001 03:08:56 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by reva.sixgirls.org (8.11.6+3.4W/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f8J38sr28257 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 23:08:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 23:08:54 -0400 (EDT) To: Subject: Re: [lojban] META : Who is everyone (and what are they saying) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Invent Yourself On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Jorge Llambias wrote: > > la xod cusku di'e > > >But there is no pe'a needed. Since daplu2 and 3 are unspecified, > >virtually everything is a daplu in one sense or another. daplu is much > >broader than "island", which means by default le daplu be lo'e tumla bei > >lo'e djacu > > So you are saying that {no prenu cu daplu} does not work at all > as a metaphor, because it is literally false in Lojban? It's literally true in some senses, and literally false in others, depending on daplu2 and daplu3. I do think that in the context of a paragraph it makes total sense, needing no pe'a or similar apology. (There really is this amazing tendency in the community to treat Lojban as a form of Fortran!) It could be clearer as no prenu cu daplu le kamjikca xamsi, but that might induce another week of cries from the peanut gallery of robots. ----- Sami ul-Haq, Osama bin Laden's closest friend in Pakistan, runs the "University for the Education of Truth," a fundamentalist institution that educated and trained nine out of the Taliban's top 10 leaders.