From arosta@uclan.ac.uk Wed Sep 19 05:58:14 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: arosta@uclan.ac.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 19 Sep 2001 12:58:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 43450 invoked from network); 19 Sep 2001 12:58:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 19 Sep 2001 12:58:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO com1.uclan.ac.uk) (193.61.255.3) by mta2 with SMTP; 19 Sep 2001 12:58:13 -0000 Received: from gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk by com1.uclan.ac.uk with SMTP (Mailer); Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:35:51 +0100 Received: from DI1-Message_Server by gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:06:17 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:05:43 +0100 To: jjllambias , lojban Subject: metaphor (was: Re: [lojban] META : Who is everyone (and what are they saying) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline From: And Rosta xorxes: #Probably pe'a-ists will want to say {no prenu cu danlu pe'a}, #but that sort of kills the effect that a good metaphor has. Also, since the work of George Lakoff and the school of cognitive linguisti= cs (of which Robin TR is a fully paid up member), we know that all language= is essentially metaphorical. The correspondence between meaning encoded in= the sentence and the situation the utterance is intended to describe is a relationship of resemblance. So the absence of pe'a does not indicate the a= bsence of figuration; rather, the presence of pe'a is an indicator to the a= ddressee to interpret the utterance as a markedly extreme case of figuratio= n. --And.