From thinkit8@lycos.com Wed Sep 19 20:48:03 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: thinkit8@lycos.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 20 Sep 2001 03:47:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 28996 invoked from network); 20 Sep 2001 03:47:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by 10.1.1.220 with QMQP; 20 Sep 2001 03:47:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n29.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.2.184) by mta1 with SMTP; 20 Sep 2001 03:48:02 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: thinkit8@lycos.com Received: from [10.1.2.91] by b05.egroups.com with NNFMP; 20 Sep 2001 03:48:02 -0000 Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 03:47:58 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Talking about the language versus using it Message-ID: <9obote+5r3p@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010919232058.00c0dcd0@pop.cais.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 2027 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 24.5.121.32 From: thinkit8@lycos.com --- In lojban@y..., "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" wrote: > At 01:50 AM 9/20/01 +0000, thinkit8@l... wrote: > >I've noticed a distinction forming between yahoo groups "jbosnu" > >and "lojban", in that "lojban" tends to have a lot of English- > >language talking about lojban and how to fix it. While jbosnu is > >expressedly for talking in lojban about other things. Initially, I > >wanted to talk about the problems with lojban in the lojban > >language. But now I see that doing so is not adding greatly to > >records of lojban usage. > > I archive all postings to either list, so they will be preserved as long as > my computer files are, at least. But if you want a larger audience and a > response to your postings in Lojban on any subject (including Lojban), you > will more likely get it on the main list. agreed, but there's been quite a bit of churn (in English) about issues related to the language itself in the "lojban" group. i may end up just posting to both. > > How often do we complain in English about > >words that don't make sense in English? We'll end up having gismu > >like: > > > >"flame: x1 insults x2's use of word x3 in language x4 because x1 > >thinks the word doesn't deserve to be in language x4." > > > >So, before, I felt guilty using English to talk about lojban. Now, I > >feel guilty using lojban to talk about lojban. But it's great seeing > >yahoo group "lojban-beginners", how the newer people are really > >trying to use the language. Ok, that's just my small opinion, in > >English, about lojban :). > > Any reason you couldn't have said the above in Lojban? (The definition of > "flame" might have been tricky, of course). .u'i i suppose i could have. > lojbab > -- > lojbab lojbab@l... > Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. > 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703- 385-0273 > Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org