From cowan@ccil.org Thu Sep 20 04:06:54 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: cowan@mercury.ccil.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 20 Sep 2001 11:06:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 60760 invoked from network); 20 Sep 2001 11:06:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by 10.1.1.222 with QMQP; 20 Sep 2001 11:06:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mercury.ccil.org) (192.190.237.102) by mta3 with SMTP; 20 Sep 2001 11:06:53 -0000 Received: from cowan by mercury.ccil.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15k1fT-0006v5-00; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 07:06:55 -0400 Subject: Re: [lojban] OFF TOPIC? Re-evaluation + an idea - Was: A parable In-Reply-To: from Invent Yourself at "Sep 20, 2001 03:21:39 am" To: Invent Yourself Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 07:06:55 -0400 (EDT) Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL66 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-eGroups-From: John Cowan From: John Cowan Invent Yourself scripsit: > > I can honestly see these two together for their whole lives - the > > feeling with them is something like cranes come home to roost at the > > end of the day. > > I wonder how common this is to China at large. And how much of this is > being eroded by It Is Glorious To Get Rich. AFAIK the Chinese have *always* thought it was Glorious To Get Rich (And Live Forever Too). Most of what Westerners think of as typically Chinese is either an ancient import (Buddhism), a home-grown counterculture (Taoism), or a modern import (Marxism). Not to say that Taoism didn't also become a method of Getting Rich and Living Forever. > Extreme Relativity, therefore, is an intermediate stage before a greater, > synthesized rationalism that incorporates what sat previously beyond the > boundary of the reasonable. Or else it isn't. "An open mind should presumably be open at both ends, like the food-pipe, with the capability of excretion as well as ingestion." --Northrop Frye "It's good to have an open mind, but not so open that your brains fall out." -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan cowan@ccil.org Please leave your values | Check your assumptions. In fact, at the front desk. | check your assumptions at the door. --sign in Paris hotel | --Miles Vorkosigan