From arosta@uclan.ac.uk Thu Sep 20 04:50:16 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: arosta@uclan.ac.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 20 Sep 2001 11:50:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 33713 invoked from network); 20 Sep 2001 11:50:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 20 Sep 2001 11:50:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO com1.uclan.ac.uk) (193.61.255.3) by mta1 with SMTP; 20 Sep 2001 11:50:15 -0000 Received: from gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk by com1.uclan.ac.uk with SMTP (Mailer); Thu, 20 Sep 2001 12:27:57 +0100 Received: from DI1-Message_Server by gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 12:58:24 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 12:58:04 +0100 To: lojban Subject: Laadan [was: Re: [lojban] A revised ce'u proposal involving si'o (fwd) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline From: And Rosta >>> michael helsem 09/20/01 01:45am >>> #>From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" #>Actually, Laadan was more thoroughly designed than you give it credit #>for. SHE did write it up in a book, and apparently there has been a smal= l #>circle of people who got to minimal conversational ability with it. #yes; i have the book, & while it's not as thorough as a poet #might wish, it does lay out enough to get started. and i have #to say, it is an interesting sketch. but it hasn't received #the intense usage & development that Klingon (which started #at about the same point) has seen. i'm not even sure if anyone #besides the inventor has written in it... According to SHE, there were groups of Laadan users. But a Women's Conlang is most unlikely to grow to life, because on the whole women have 'better' things to do than devote unjustifiably immense energies to breathing life into a conlang. That's (I surmise) a male thing to do,=20 and it seems that the conlang must have geek appeal, as Klingon=20 and Loglan in their different ways do. (The more usual example of the phenomenon of men putting unjustifiably immense energies into things is, in Britain at least, being a football supporter.) --And.