From lojbab@lojban.org Thu Sep 20 15:04:18 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 20 Sep 2001 22:04:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 43227 invoked from network); 20 Sep 2001 22:04:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 20 Sep 2001 22:04:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stmpy-5.cais.net) (205.252.14.75) by mta3 with SMTP; 20 Sep 2001 22:04:14 -0000 Received: from bob.lojban.org (209-8-89-124.dynamic.cais.com [209.8.89.124]) by stmpy-5.cais.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f8KM4D094112 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 18:04:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010920174409.00e35d60@pop.cais.com> X-Sender: vir1036@pop.cais.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 18:01:10 -0400 To: lojban Subject: Re: [lojban] Dumb answers to good questions In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" At 01:59 PM 9/20/01 +0100, And Rosta wrote: >So the general Lojban strategy I'd propose would be twofold >(a) a method of isolating the focused item along the lines sketched >above, We have a prenex approach to this where it is a sumti you want to draw focus to, as well as fronting and trailing markedly, which brings focus by the marking. ba'e of course directly adds emphasis, but does not indicate why, which draws focus. > (b) an optional UI to mark the focused item -- the equivalent >of English intonation's focal stress ("Bob HIT Bill", etc.). The closest we have to this beside ba'e is bi'u/bi'unai which were originally intended by Colin Fine who proposed them to deal with one particular reason for focus. I suspect that if we wanted to add more capability in this area it would be to add words intended to convey other specific reasons for focus. These are good candidates for experimental cmavo because the added cmavo will inherently draw focus even if it isn't known (and if known will indicate why the focus is drawn) lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org