From nicholas@uci.edu Sat Sep 22 14:50:11 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: nicholas@uci.edu X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 22 Sep 2001 21:50:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 91846 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2001 21:50:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 22 Sep 2001 21:50:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO e4e.oac.uci.edu) (128.200.222.10) by mta2 with SMTP; 22 Sep 2001 21:50:11 -0000 Received: from [128.195.186.89] (dialin53a-79.ppp.uci.edu [128.195.186.89]) by e4e.oac.uci.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11723 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 14:50:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: nicholas@e4e.oac.uci.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 14:54:26 -0700 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: META : Who is everyone (and what are they saying) From: Nick Nicholas >.i mu'i le nu do ju'o sinma le nu le >bangu gerna na cenba kei kei mi birti le du'u do zanru le nu le di'u >se cusku be do na drani *checks grammar* Damn. You got me. I was about to fulminate "what a dumbass grammar rule", but the worst of it is, no, it's an eminently sensible grammar rule: --- you do want to be able to say {ci .a vo prenu}. (Though I'd completely forgotten that you could.) The thing about {li 20 .enai li 18}, of course, is that it *would* be correct... if Lojban wasn't LALR1. A human knows, since .enai is followed by {li}, what is being joined. And of course, I never liked LALR1 for a human language, which is why I also don't like {ku joi}. But yes, Adam, {le jufra pe mi cu jai se srera}. Mpf. Nick Nicholas, UCI, USA. nicholas@uci.edu http://www.tlg.uci.edu/~opoudjis "Must I, then, be the only one to be beheaded now?" "Why, did you want everybody to be beheaded for your consolation?" Epictetus, Discourses 1.1.