From xod@sixgirls.org Sat Sep 22 16:28:53 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: xod@reva.sixgirls.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 22 Sep 2001 23:28:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 46159 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2001 23:28:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by 10.1.1.222 with QMQP; 22 Sep 2001 23:28:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO reva.sixgirls.org) (64.152.7.13) by mta1 with SMTP; 22 Sep 2001 23:28:52 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by reva.sixgirls.org (8.11.6+3.4W/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f8MNSq327847 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 19:28:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 19:28:51 -0400 (EDT) To: Subject: RE: [lojban] Dumb answers to good questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Invent Yourself On Sat, 22 Sep 2001, Nick Nicholas wrote: > cu'u la xod. > > > And why must Lojban express every nuance of English? > > ?! > > Lojban must be able to be as expressive as any human language. Any language? Which language should it duplicate? I am coming from the assumption that there are expressions in a language that are difficult to duplicate in others. It is so by > design and ideology and intent. Besides, focus is as basic a nuance to > human communication as any. > > I know we've got ideological differences about Lojban up the wazoo, but how > can you imply Lojban needn't distinguish between "It was John that Bill > helped" and "It was Bill that helped John"? Every language does that, Well I think that's sufficiently handled with ba'e, personally. I am willing to sacrifice some English expressiveness in Lojban, though. I think we should all be so ready, to some extent. If we aren't, what is stopping Lojban from becoming not an independent language but a superset of all Earth languages? Are you really able to carry all the nuances from English into Greek and vice versa? ----- It's said that Mullah Omar has met two non-Muslims in his life. Others say even that's not true. Sami ul-Haq, Osama bin Laden's closest friend in Pakistan, runs the "University for the Education of Truth," a fundamentalist institution that educated and trained nine out of the Taliban's top 10 leaders.