From richard@rrbcurnow.freeuk.com Sun Sep 23 15:00:31 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: richard@rrbcurnow.freeuk.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 23 Sep 2001 22:00:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 71274 invoked from network); 23 Sep 2001 22:00:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 23 Sep 2001 22:00:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO scrabble.freeuk.net) (212.126.144.6) by mta1 with SMTP; 23 Sep 2001 22:00:31 -0000 Received: from du-011-0197.freeuk.com ([212.126.154.197] helo=rrbcurnow.freeuk.com) by scrabble.freeuk.net with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #2) id 15lHIa-0002OM-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 23 Sep 2001 23:00:29 +0100 Received: from richard by rrbcurnow.freeuk.com with local (Exim 2.02 #2) id 15lGWe-0000BY-00; Sun, 23 Sep 2001 22:10:56 +0100 Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 22:10:56 +0100 To: lojban Subject: Re: [lojban] META : Who is everyone (and what are they saying) Message-ID: <20010923221056.A706@rrbcurnow.freeuk.com> Mail-Followup-To: lojban References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010920172233.00e33bb0@pop.cais.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i-nntp In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010920172233.00e33bb0@pop.cais.com>; from lojbab@lojban.org on Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 05:41:27PM -0400 From: Richard Curnow Adding new cmavo to existing selma'o is a relatively simple change in jbofi'e. Adding new selma'o would presumably involve adding new grammar rules (else why would you need them) - the complexity would vary on a case-by-case basis. Also there are parts of the 'back-end' (e.g. working out which terms are which arguments of each selbri) which have a lot of grammatical structure hard-coded in. On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 05:41:27PM -0400, Bob LeChevalier (lojbab) wrote: > At 12:31 PM 9/20/01 +0100, And Rosta wrote: > > >Either that or > >we encourage people to experiment with using their own zipfing experimental > >cmavo, possibly with concomitant grammar changes, and then see which > >experimentals catch on. > > Experimental cmavo have no defined grammar, so using them is not a "grammar > change". However you have to be skilled enough at the language to be able > to communicate without having a jbofi'e to parse and translate your > experiments, since jbofi'e won't likely be able to incorporate all of them > even if Curnow wanted to try (some might not pass LALR1) -- Richard. ---------------------------------+------------------------------------- Richard P. Curnow | C++: n., An octopus made by Weston-super-Mare, UK | nailing extra legs on a cat. http://www.rrbcurnow.freeuk.com/ |