From cowan@ccil.org Mon Sep 24 03:26:58 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: cowan@mercury.ccil.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 24 Sep 2001 10:26:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 99563 invoked from network); 24 Sep 2001 10:26:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 24 Sep 2001 10:26:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mercury.ccil.org) (192.190.237.102) by mta1 with SMTP; 24 Sep 2001 10:26:57 -0000 Received: from cowan by mercury.ccil.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15lSx2-0003is-00; Mon, 24 Sep 2001 06:27:00 -0400 Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: META : Who is everyone (and what are they saying) In-Reply-To: from Nick Nicholas at "Sep 22, 2001 02:54:26 pm" To: Nick Nicholas Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 06:27:00 -0400 (EDT) Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL66 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-eGroups-From: John Cowan From: John Cowan Nick Nicholas scripsit: > I was about to fulminate "what a dumbass grammar rule", but the worst of it > is, no, it's an eminently sensible grammar rule: --- you do want to be able > to say {ci .a vo prenu}. (Though I'd completely forgotten that you could.) Almost. You have to say "vei ci .a vo [ve'o] prenu", because a quantifier has to be either a simple number or a *parenthesized* mekso. > The thing about {li 20 .enai li 18}, of course, is that it *would* be > correct... if Lojban wasn't LALR1. A human knows, since .enai is followed > by {li}, what is being joined. What is ungrammatical about li 20 .enai li 18 is the gardenpath resulting from elided lo'o. > And of course, I never liked LALR1 for a > human language, which is why I also don't like {ku joi}. These problems have nothing to do with LALR1, but rather with the handling of elidable terminators as recoverable parser errors. -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan cowan@ccil.org Please leave your values | Check your assumptions. In fact, at the front desk. | check your assumptions at the door. --sign in Paris hotel | --Miles Vorkosigan