From jcowan@reutershealth.com Wed Sep 26 10:12:35 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 26 Sep 2001 17:11:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 58373 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2001 17:11:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by 10.1.1.221 with QMQP; 26 Sep 2001 17:11:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.reutershealth.com) (204.243.9.36) by mta1 with SMTP; 26 Sep 2001 17:12:34 -0000 Received: from reutershealth.com (IDENT:cowan@[192.168.3.11]) by mail.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA03537; Wed, 26 Sep 2001 13:14:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3BB20C71.6010003@reutershealth.com> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 13:12:17 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20010913 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: And Rosta Cc: lojban Subject: Re: [lojban] Set of answers encore References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Cowan And Rosta wrote: > Lojban needs an unambiguous way of distinguishing between > > 'intensional believe': x1 has the thought that x2 is the case That is jinvi. > and > > 'extensional believe': The states of affairs that x1 believes obtain include x2 That is loi se jinvi be ko'a cu nibli ko'e, x1's beliefs entail that x2, which could be zipfed as seljivyselni'i. -- Not to perambulate || John Cowan the corridors || http://www.reutershealth.com during the hours of repose || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan in the boots of ascension. \\ Sign in Austrian ski-resort hotel