From thinkit8@lycos.com Thu Sep 27 22:08:38 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: thinkit8@lycos.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 28 Sep 2001 05:08:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 4887 invoked from network); 28 Sep 2001 05:08:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 28 Sep 2001 05:08:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n28.groups.yahoo.com) (216.115.96.78) by mta3 with SMTP; 28 Sep 2001 05:08:38 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: thinkit8@lycos.com Received: from [10.1.10.123] by f19.egroups.com with NNFMP; 28 Sep 2001 05:08:11 -0000 Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 05:08:10 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: periodic hexadecimal reminder Message-ID: <9p10jq+gcgp@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <20010927190954.B1323@twcny.rr.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1183 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 24.9.177.64 From: thinkit8@lycos.com --- In lojban@y..., Rob Speer wrote: > On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 06:02:34PM -0400, Craig wrote: > > No, you could use radix-1. Radix-1+1 = radix, and is always pano. Also, once > > you get to trying to say base 17 lojban has problems. > > Once you get to base 17, you have to use a different base to talk about the > digits _anyway_, so express the radix in that base. > > The only problem I see with bases 11-16 in Lojban is that there's no way (yet) > to abbreviate dau-vai, as the digits 0-9 abbreviate no-so. Though for base 12 > (if I remember the digits right) * could be 'dau' and # could be 'fei'. This > also provides names for these characters (daubu, feibu). But are there 4 > arbitrary characters left for the other digits? (Remember, A-F are taken.) > -- > la rab.spir > noi sarji zo gumri > de'i li 11*9 ju'u feisu'ipa while we're at it, we should make sure numbers don't look like letters (5 and S), and aren't rotations of others (6 and 9). ah, but it's so tiring fighting tradition and history. anyway, what's wrong with A-F? caps are only used in cmene, and can't be used for an entire word--so their use in lojban should be unambiguous.