From phma@oltronics.net Sat Sep 29 17:59:51 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 30 Sep 2001 00:59:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 55373 invoked from network); 30 Sep 2001 00:59:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 30 Sep 2001 00:59:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO neofelis.ixazon.lan) (216.189.29.227) by mta2 with SMTP; 30 Sep 2001 00:59:15 -0000 Received: by neofelis.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 500) id 360053C476; Sat, 29 Sep 2001 20:57:36 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Reply-To: phma@oltronics.net To: Subject: le gurni .e le jifygurni Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 20:57:32 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0109292057330X.01489@neofelis> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com From: Pierre Abbat I'd like to come up with Lojban names for some grains and other seeds which are eaten like grains but aren't: Spelt, clearly, is maxrnspelta. (It is Triticum spelta, and {spelta} by itself is a slinku'i.) Kamut: The word is Egyptian, but the scientific name is Triticum polonicum. Should it be misrymaxri, or something else? Buckwheat belongs to the family Polygonaceae, which has its own gismu, so I made up the fu'ivla {xubrsoba}. Or is {xubrkaca} better? Quinoa belongs to the family Chenopodiaceae, whose English name, "goosefoot", means the same as the Greek. It is Chenopodium quinoa. Other members of the family are Atriplex (lots of species, and I read about A. patula in Scientific American years ago), Beta (beet), Salsola (which might be called {sodnyspa}; there's a S. kali and a S. soda), and Spinacia (spinach). Amaranth is in the same genus (Amaranthus) as pigweed and lamb's quarters. It is the typical member of its family, Amaranthaceae. I didn't see any other familiar species. phma