From arosta@uclan.ac.uk Mon Oct 01 07:06:00 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: arosta@uclan.ac.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 1 Oct 2001 14:06:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 49133 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2001 14:05:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 1 Oct 2001 14:05:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO com1.uclan.ac.uk) (193.61.255.3) by mta3 with SMTP; 1 Oct 2001 14:05:51 -0000 Received: from gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk by com1.uclan.ac.uk with SMTP (Mailer); Mon, 1 Oct 2001 14:43:07 +0100 Received: from DI1-Message_Server by gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 01 Oct 2001 15:14:46 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 15:14:25 +0100 To: lojban Subject: new brivla (was: Re: [lojban] Set of answers encore Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline From: And Rosta Pierre: #On Saturday 29 September 2001 22:32, And Rosta wrote: #> IOW, what I am trying to say is that the intensional/extensional #> distinction carries over to all cognitive/perceptual predicates. #> #> I believe that the mainstream view among lojbanists is that everything #> receives the extensional reading, except for LE du'u sumti, which are #> intensional. # #I have no idea what this means, let alone what my view is, and have no ide= a=20 #how you expect the language to succeed if you spend all your time quibblin= g=20 #about cmavo and not adding new brivla to the language. To clarify these=20 #questions, we need usage, and to get usage, we need vocabulary. Let's say then that that's the mainstream view among those who have a view. Myself I don't feel the need to create new brivla to be so pressing, compar= ed to sorting out more fundamental (and more interesting...) issues. But it wo= uld certainly be a great help to have a vlaste that included lujvo, and not jus= t lujvo used more than 100 times (-- a threshold mentioned by Lojbab). It should probably be a vetted list, to filter out dud lujvo, but otherwise as large as possible. This might speed up composition; for example, the text you sent me included a very good lujvo for 'saddle', which I would like to use should I ever have cause to write in Lojban about saddles, but I completely forget what the lujvo was, so would instead have to try to reinvent one that would probably be inferior. Far better if I could just search for 'saddle' in a very big vlaste, and find there your lujvo. --And.