From pycyn@aol.com Mon Oct 01 09:41:44 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 1 Oct 2001 16:41:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 82042 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2001 16:41:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by 10.1.1.222 with QMQP; 1 Oct 2001 16:41:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r07.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.103) by mta2 with SMTP; 1 Oct 2001 16:41:44 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.7.) id r.127.4ed6c99 (4185) for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 12:41:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <127.4ed6c99.28e9f6b9@aol.com> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 12:41:29 EDT Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: noxemol ce'u To: lojban@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_127.4ed6c99.28e9f6b9_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10535 From: pycyn@aol.com --part1_127.4ed6c99.28e9f6b9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/1/2001 9:22:50 AM Central Daylight Time, arosta@uclan.ac.uk writes: > Well hey, that was only my guess at how you'd use the lujvo to say > "the mother-of function": I see now that unresolved confusion about > which gadri/quantifiers to use with nei/no'a may have caused a > problem, so rephrase to: > > "da poi ro de ke'a se -function ro mamta be de" > > = "something x such that x is a function from every y to every mother of y" > > And tinker with it until it satisfies you. > But I told you how I would use it the first time. Why {ro mamta}, is there more than one? If so, how is this a function? Otherwise you are getting around to my usage, which is, after all, just the antural one. Why make weird problems? But I want to talk about the course of values, if you will, and so I used the natural extension of that standard to get away from one individual to a range of individuals: {le mamta be ce'u}. Thanks for the support. --part1_127.4ed6c99.28e9f6b9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/1/2001 9:22:50 AM Central Daylight Time, arosta@uclan.ac.uk writes:


Well hey, that was only my guess at how you'd use the lujvo to say
"the mother-of function": I see now that unresolved confusion about
which gadri/quantifiers to use with nei/no'a may have caused a
problem, so rephrase to:

"da poi ro de ke'a se -function ro mamta be de"

= "something x such that x is a function from every y to every mother  of y"

And tinker with it until it satisfies you.


But I told you how I would use it the first time.  Why {ro mamta}, is there more than one?  If so, how is this a function?  Otherwise you are getting around to my usage, which is, after all, just the antural one.  Why make weird problems?

<If you're talking about the value rather than the function, then I'd have
thought ordinary bogstandard "LE mamta be ko'a" does the job.>

But I want to talk about the course of values, if you will, and so I used the natural extension of that standard to get away from one individual  to a range of individuals:
{le mamta be ce'u}.  Thanks for the support. --part1_127.4ed6c99.28e9f6b9_boundary--