From jjllambias@hotmail.com Mon Oct 01 10:27:57 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 1 Oct 2001 17:27:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 69747 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2001 17:27:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Oct 2001 17:27:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.23) by mta2 with SMTP; 1 Oct 2001 17:27:56 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 10:27:56 -0700 Received: from 200.49.74.2 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 01 Oct 2001 17:27:56 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.49.74.2] To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: noxemol ce'u Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 17:27:56 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Oct 2001 17:27:56.0634 (UTC) FILETIME=[68C873A0:01C14A9E] From: "Jorge Llambias" la pycyn cusku di'e >And, since nothing is thrown out in adding these, there is no place to >look for the baby except safe in the crib it was in all the time. But something _is_ thrown out! We could no longer use {le ka le mamta be ce'u cu melbi} for "the property of having a beautiful mother". That's the main reason I don't want to take {le mamta be ce'u} as a function. There's also the less important matter, but still significant, that while you get ^xf(x), there's no equivalent way of getting ^xf(g(x)). It just wouldn't fit with the rest of the language if ce'u had no prenex to hang from, and {le} does not provide one. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp