From arosta@uclan.ac.uk Wed Oct 03 07:58:39 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: arosta@uclan.ac.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 3 Oct 2001 14:58:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 68135 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2001 14:58:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by 10.1.1.222 with QMQP; 3 Oct 2001 14:58:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO com1.uclan.ac.uk) (193.61.255.3) by mta3 with SMTP; 3 Oct 2001 14:58:33 -0000 Received: from gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk by com1.uclan.ac.uk with SMTP (Mailer); Wed, 3 Oct 2001 15:35:31 +0100 Received: from DI1-Message_Server by gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 03 Oct 2001 16:07:26 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 16:07:12 +0100 To: hfroark , lojban Subject: [lojban] Re: periodic hexadecimal reminder Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline From: And Rosta >>> 10/02/01 08:41pm >>> #However, I like the idea of being able to use dau - vai in=20 #the base directly: This makes base two is "ju'i re"; base=20 #five, "mu"; base eight, "bi"; base ten, "dau"; base=20 #twelve, "gai"; base sixteen, we don't have one. Since=20 #sixteen is the highest (relataively) common base (because=20 #of computers), I'd like to propose that a single cmavo be=20 #added which can be used as an R-expression for "ju'i" that=20 #indicates base sixteen. Considering that in base ten,=20 #sixteen is expressed as paxa. I've thought of using pa'a or=20 #xa'a, for this purpose. Since pa'a is already assigned that=20 #would leave xa'a as my suggestion. On the whole I think it is best to choose an experimental form that is CVVV and that has had no other meaning previously proposed for it. e.g. {pa'ai}. Also, grammar change would be minimized by putting it in PA. #There is one other mechanism I would like to see considered:=20 #a way to assign a sticky base, so that one could define a=20 #base at the beginning of a document or section, and have=20 #the later numbers interpreted as the base in question.=20 #Since, this wouldn't be a common operation, I don't think=20 #that a cmavo needs to be assigned for that purpose. A general UI for stickiness would do the job and be more multifunctional. --And.