From lojbab@xxxxxx.xxxx Sun Aug 15 20:09:47 1999 X-Digest-Num: 212 Message-ID: <44114.212.1133.959273824@eGroups.com> Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 23:09:47 -0400 From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" From: xod > > >Data: 5 > > >Information, data in context: "5 is the square root of 25" > > >Knowledge, info in context: the skill of finding square roots > > > > Then {datni} sounds more like information, if you look > > at its x2 and x3 places. Maybe something using {selci} > > for data? > >One option is to assume that the writers of the gismu list didn't quite >understand the subtle difference between data and information/facts, and >that datni really means data. Who is the "authority" on such issues? There is no authority, but I was the one who wrote the definition %^) Please clarify what "5" which you call "data" IS. I can see it either as "namcu"/"kanli" or as datni sinxa, or as "li mu" it can be described by "sumt", since all sumti are in a sense "data without a bridi context". I will confirm that my understanding/intent for datni is rather more like what you call "information". "Knowledge" is Lojban somewhat orthogonal to "information", being tied to epistemology. And "facts", well Jorge and I have agreed to disagree %^)