From jcrossco@bellsouth.net Thu Oct 04 15:11:47 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jcrossco@bellsouth.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 4 Oct 2001 22:09:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 50836 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2001 22:09:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by 10.1.1.221 with QMQP; 4 Oct 2001 22:09:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n11.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.10.50) by mta1 with SMTP; 4 Oct 2001 22:11:46 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jcrossco@bellsouth.net Received: from [10.1.10.118] by n11.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Oct 2001 22:11:01 -0000 Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 22:09:23 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: translation exercise Message-ID: <9pimmj+17t9@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <20011004114636.B7548@digitalkingdom.org> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1070 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 216.78.101.61 From: jcrossco@bellsouth.net (Sorry, Robin, if you've received a flurry of emails from me. I believe the parameters are set right now.) Apparently "before" is ambiguous in that it can signal preemption, or temporal precedence, or both. e.g., The madman was captured before he killed his cellmate. The madman stopped counting corners of the square before he encountered a fifth corner. -jrc --- In lojban@y..., Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 06:41:33PM +0000, Jorge Llambias wrote: > > > > la camgusmis cusku di'e > > > > > > i'e le fenki cu se kavbu pu ro nu fy catra da > > > > > >If he ever kills in the future, or if he ever killed in the past, > > >the sentence is false. > > > > Why is it false if he kills in the future? The capturing would > > happen before that event, so the sentence is true. > > Oh! > > Right, sorry. My bad. > > -Robin > > -- > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ BTW, I'm male, honest. > le datni cu djica le nu zifre .iku'i .oi le so'e datni cu to'e te pilno > je xlali -- RLP http://www.lojban.org/