From graywyvern@hotmail.com Sat Oct 06 07:09:18 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: graywyvern@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 6 Oct 2001 14:09:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 64322 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2001 14:09:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Oct 2001 14:09:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.236.129) by mta2 with SMTP; 6 Oct 2001 14:09:17 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 6 Oct 2001 07:09:16 -0700 Received: from 65.64.222.70 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 06 Oct 2001 14:09:16 GMT X-Originating-IP: [65.64.222.70] To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: RE: [lojban] translation exercise Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2001 14:09:16 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Oct 2001 14:09:16.0954 (UTC) FILETIME=[7C2A5FA0:01C14E70] From: "michael helsem" >From: "And Rosta" li'o> > balvi catra fenki se kavbu zabna > >Have you tested the ability of you and/or others to glork the >meaning of such locutions? Or are you advocating a kind of poetical >style where the hearer never glorks a precise meaning but instead >sits back and inhales the hempen fug? > this may not have a one-to-one correspondence to the separate semantic units of the english construction but i can imagine someone saying this & meaning the same thing (which could have been expressed any number of other ways in english, as well). in a lojban news headline i imagine they would use a groovy old prenex. --------------------------------------------------------- "The time when the Bill of Rights, or the providing of historical context or satire, is most precious and most necessary is always when it is being deprecated as too dangerous, irrelevant or inappropriate at the present time." --Alexander Cockburn _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp