From jjllambias@hotmail.com Sat Oct 06 20:14:42 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 7 Oct 2001 03:14:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 82326 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2001 03:14:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Oct 2001 03:14:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.143) by mta3 with SMTP; 7 Oct 2001 03:14:42 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 6 Oct 2001 20:14:38 -0700 Received: from 200.69.11.237 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 07 Oct 2001 03:14:38 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.69.11.237] To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] "knowledge as to who saw who" readings Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 03:14:38 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Oct 2001 03:14:38.0976 (UTC) FILETIME=[33145000:01C14EDE] From: "Jorge Llambias" la pycyn cusku di'e >And SA3b is pretty likely false, since it is unlikely that he knows -- even >believes, even conceives -- all the true answers. In And's version, he knows the full extension, and knows that it is the full extension, so that would involve knowing all the true answers. The question occured in a context, and in that context the true answers were not inconceivably unknowable. >He may know enough for >completeness, and that would be the way I would tend to go {la djan djuno >rau >du'u makau viska makau}. But that still doesn't say that he knows that what he knows is enough for completeness. And's version required that he does. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp