From rob@twcny.rr.com Mon Oct 08 09:32:35 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: rob@twcny.rr.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 8 Oct 2001 16:32:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 16201 invoked from network); 8 Oct 2001 16:29:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Oct 2001 16:29:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailout5.nyroc.rr.com) (24.92.226.169) by mta3 with SMTP; 8 Oct 2001 16:29:29 -0000 Received: from mail1.twcny.rr.com (mail1-0 [24.92.226.74]) by mailout5.nyroc.rr.com (8.11.6/Road Runner 1.12) with ESMTP id f98GTOo10286 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2001 12:29:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from riff ([24.92.246.4]) by mail1.twcny.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2001 12:28:25 -0400 Received: from rob by riff with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15qdGk-0000D6-00 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2001 12:28:42 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 12:28:42 -0400 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: noxemol ce'u Message-ID: <20011008122842.A775@twcny.rr.com> Reply-To: rob@twcny.rr.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i X-Is-It-Not-Nifty: www.sluggy.com From: Rob Speer On Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 04:00:06PM +0100, And Rosta wrote: > I admit defeat: I am too ground-down by this debate to be able to muster the resources of time and energy to continue, especially when, stalingradlike, every inch of ground is repeatedly fought over. I just don't see how debate > can possibly be fruitful if we can't even agree that "le selbri be KOhA" is > not a bridi. I have to agree. I should have learned from last time I attempted to argue with pc; you can't contradict something that he believes, you can only make him raise it to a higher level of abstraction. If pc wants to make ce'u bind to arbitrary things, he can establish it through usage. -- la rab.spir noi sarji zo gumri