From rob@twcny.rr.com Sat Oct 13 11:50:32 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: rob@twcny.rr.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 13 Oct 2001 18:50:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 81284 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2001 18:50:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 13 Oct 2001 18:50:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailout5.nyroc.rr.com) (24.92.226.122) by mta1 with SMTP; 13 Oct 2001 18:50:32 -0000 Received: from mail1.twcny.rr.com (mail1-0 [24.92.226.74]) by mailout5.nyroc.rr.com (8.11.6/Road Runner 1.12) with ESMTP id f9DIoTh26126 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2001 14:50:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from riff ([24.92.246.4]) by mail1.twcny.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2001 14:49:32 -0400 Received: from rob by riff with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15sTqx-0000Fn-00 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2001 14:49:43 -0400 Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 14:49:43 -0400 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: re : translation challenge: "If today is Monday..." Message-ID: <20011013144943.A966@twcny.rr.com> Reply-To: rob@twcny.rr.com References: <20011013140124.B813@twcny.rr.com> <9qa1p6+qhu3@eGroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9qa1p6+qhu3@eGroups.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i X-Is-It-Not-Nifty: www.sluggy.com From: Rob Speer On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 06:39:34PM -0000, gordon.dyke@bluewin.ch wrote: > No, I believe there _must_ be a way to express a subjunctive... call > it my faith in lojban. Once it is proven to me that there _is_ no > way, I will find mu'ei agreable. Of course there's another way. It would be {vi le munje poi ne'i ke'a ...} Except that's ugly as sin and nobody would ever use it. {mu'ei} is nice and short, doesn't require you to say the word "universe", and acts as a tense which is where possible worlds belong. -- la rab.spir noi so'amu'ei sarji zo gumri