From phma@oltronics.net Sat Oct 20 21:23:20 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 21 Oct 2001 04:23:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 13802 invoked from network); 21 Oct 2001 04:23:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 21 Oct 2001 04:23:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO neofelis.ixazon.lan) (216.189.29.246) by mta2 with SMTP; 21 Oct 2001 04:22:58 -0000 Received: by neofelis.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 500) id 606A33C4C0; Sun, 21 Oct 2001 00:08:52 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Reply-To: phma@oltronics.net To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] le vlatai be zo damskrima Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 00:08:51 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <0110142328460N.02047@neofelis> <20011015224701.B423@rrbcurnow.freeuk.com> In-Reply-To: <20011015224701.B423@rrbcurnow.freeuk.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0110210008510J.07854@neofelis> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com From: Pierre Abbat On Monday 15 October 2001 17:47, Richard Curnow wrote: > I think it's because the consonant cluster is too long. There was a > discussion a while back which set the limit in fu'ivla at 3 consonants > in a row, unless one is syllabic with consonants surrounding it. So > "mskr" is >3 letters and the "m" and "r" (both syllabic) are at the ends > of the string, so don't "reset" the count. > > If this algorithm is wrong, let's reopen the discussion as to what the > requirement is, and I'll make the necessary changes after we've decided. > (Sigh in advance.) I think it should be 3 non-syllabic consonants in a row, whether or not the syllabics actually have consonants on both sides. I find {damskrima} a lot easier to pronounce than some fu'ivla that vlatai likes, like {jglandi} (nargrjuglandi for the type-3-philes), and some lujvo, like {rapmri}. phma