From cowan@ccil.org Sat Oct 27 21:57:26 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: cowan@mercury.ccil.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 28 Oct 2001 04:57:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 91961 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2001 04:57:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 28 Oct 2001 04:57:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mercury.ccil.org) (192.190.237.100) by mta1 with SMTP; 28 Oct 2001 04:57:25 -0000 Received: from cowan by mercury.ccil.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15xi0w-0003VT-00 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 00:57:38 -0400 Subject: Re: [lojban] a construal of lo'e & le'e In-Reply-To: from "pycyn@aol.com" at "Oct 27, 2001 04:37:21 pm" To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 00:57:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL66 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-eGroups-From: John Cowan From: John Cowan X-Yahoo-Profile: johnwcowan pycyn@aol.com scripsit: > cowan: > <(iii) Man(kind) speaks six thousand languages. (true) > (iv) Man speaks six thousand languages. (false) > (v) A man speaks six thousand languages. (false)> > > What does iv mean? It is not (as it normally would be) iii and can hardly be > v. It's lo'e remna, something that English can't well express for this particular concept. Typical members of our species don't speak 6000 lgs; indeed, none of them do, which is what (v) says. > pier: > <{reda kanla lo'e remna} sounds not quite right - it should be {lo'e remna cu > se kanla reda}. > > > What is the quantifier on {lo'e} that makes this exchange different? Lo'es are unique, pa lo'e pa, so I think this means the same either way. -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan cowan@ccil.org Please leave your values | Check your assumptions. In fact, at the front desk. | check your assumptions at the door. --sign in Paris hotel | --Miles Vorkosigan