From jcowan@reutershealth.com Mon Oct 29 11:40:47 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 29 Oct 2001 19:40:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 34145 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2001 19:40:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by 10.1.1.221 with QMQP; 29 Oct 2001 19:40:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.reutershealth.com) (204.243.9.36) by mta2 with SMTP; 29 Oct 2001 19:40:47 -0000 Received: from reutershealth.com (IDENT:cowan@[192.168.3.11]) by mail.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25057; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 14:41:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3BDDB066.5010603@reutershealth.com> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 14:39:18 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20010913 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: And Rosta Cc: lojban Subject: Re: [lojban] a construal of lo'e & le'e References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Cowan X-Yahoo-Profile: john_w_cowan And Rosta wrote: > Eh? What am I missing? -- "pa djacu cu du lo djacu" seems wholly true. Should have been "pa djacu cu du re djacu" > #(Oy, I curse the day that I decided to merge selma'o DU and GOhA.) > > Why? Because tanru with du are useless, and it would have been more Zipfy not to have to use "cu" in sentences like that. > My point is that if you take it as an > abstraction arrived at by averaging and selecting typical properties, > then you get the distinction between having properties that [a] by default > inherit to all instances of the abstraction (e.g. living in Africa), and, on > the other hand, having properties that [b] don't by default inherit to all > instances of the abstraction (e.g. being discussed by us). Ah. This sounds like the difference between a typical property of lions and a property of the typical lion. [a] is both, but [b] is only the latter. -- Not to perambulate || John Cowan the corridors || http://www.reutershealth.com during the hours of repose || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan in the boots of ascension. \\ Sign in Austrian ski-resort hotel