From lojbab@lojban.org Thu Nov 01 09:51:54 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 1 Nov 2001 17:51:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 11272 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2001 17:51:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Nov 2001 17:51:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stmpy-3.cais.net) (205.252.14.73) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Nov 2001 17:51:53 -0000 Received: from bob.lojban.org (209-8-89-157.dynamic.cais.com [209.8.89.157]) by stmpy-3.cais.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fA1HpqC55210 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 12:51:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011031193505.00d64d90@pop.cais.com> X-Sender: vir1036@pop.cais.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 19:36:53 -0500 To: lojban Subject: Re: [lojban] observatives & a construal of lo'e & le'e In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" At 04:13 PM 10/31/01 +0000, And Rosta wrote: >#And: your ideas about {zo'e} seem to arise from treating the observative >#as a special case. Why is this necessary? > >Treating the observative as a special case is precisely what I object to. Do you also object to the "story time" convention as a special case? Do you object to the various special cases that Nick identified as part of the lujvo-place structures paper? lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org