From mark@xxx.xxx Mon Aug 23 20:47:38 1999 X-Digest-Num: 219 Message-ID: <44114.219.1187.959273825@eGroups.com> Date: 24 Aug 1999 03:47:38 -0000 From: mark@xxx.xxx Subject: Re: Mark's proposed "ja'ai" already exists >From: John Cowan >Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 00:03:42 -0400 (EDT) > >From: John Cowan > >Blunderingly I wrote: > >> >There is already a positive analogue to "nai", and that is "jo'a". >> >It can be attached to attitudes to make them explicitly positive, >> >or used as a general metalinguistic affirmer: this is so, despite >> >appearances otherwise. >> > >> >Grammatically "jo'a" belongs to UI rather than NAI, but that simply >> >means it cannot be used in place of the non-attitudinal uses of "nai", >> >such as with connectives, tenses, etc. (In practice if you want >> >to say ".ejo'a" it is grammatical 99% of the time.) > >Mark Shoulson hrmphed: > >> Hrmph. I'm not sure I'm satisfied. If ja'o means the same as my proposed >> ja'ai, then na'i must be the same as nai. > >Oops. jo'a is the counterpart of na'i indeed. There is no counterpart >of nai; jo'a = na'inai. 'Zactly. That's what {ja'ai} is: another cmavo of selma'o NAI, the counterpart to {nai}. Just as {ja'a} is to {na}, {ja'ai} is to {nai}. ~mark