From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Fri Nov 02 09:26:02 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 2 Nov 2001 17:26:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 1124 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2001 17:26:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m12.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Nov 2001 17:26:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.169.75.101) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Nov 2001 17:26:01 -0000 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15zi52-0000oG-00 for ; Fri, 02 Nov 2001 09:26:08 -0800 Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 09:26:08 -0800 To: "Lojban@Yahoogroups. Com" Subject: Re: [lojban] lo with discourse-scope? Message-ID: <20011102092608.K8020@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: "Lojban@Yahoogroups. Com" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i From: Robin Lee Powell X-Yahoo-Profile: robinleepowell On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 04:25:36AM -0000, And Rosta wrote: > "An/This Englishman walks into an Irish pub. He goes up to the bar and..." > > Which Englishman? > It doesn't matter -- any old Englishman. > So not {le glico} then? > No. > So {lo glico}? > Well, no, because its quantifier should bind only what is within its scope, > yet throughout the rest of the joke, "he" and "le glico" refer back to the > Englishman. > So what we need is a way to indicate an existential quantifier that has scope > over an entire text? > Yes. > And how do we do that? > I've no idea. I'll ask The List. Uhhh, doesn't da keep its binding until changed? That's certainly how I use it. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ BTW, I'm male, honest. le datni cu djica le nu zifre .iku'i .oi le so'e datni cu to'e te pilno je xlali -- RLP http://www.lojban.org/